Episode 45: President George H. W. Bush

George H.W. Bush, the 41st President of the United States, was not only a man who devoted his life to serving his country; but before he dedicated his life to such service, he studied at Yale University and while there, played firstbase for the Eli’s. While he wasn’t necessarily the greatest of hitters, in fact, he was what you would call a “light-hitting first baseman”, he did put the ball in play. His main contribution, however, was with his glove. In fact, his career fielding percentage is nearly 20-points higher than the first basemen he played against. Bush’s career at Yale spanned three seasons, 1946, 47 and 48, and the Yale teams of 47 and 48 played in the first two editions of the College World Series. Joining Sports’ Forgotten Heroes for this look at the college baseball career of Bush 41 is Herman Krabbenhoft, the author of a terrific and extremely in-depth biography of the President. Krabbenhoft, who self-published a quarterly baseball research journal for 10 years, has written many articles for SABR (Society for American Baseball Research) of which he joined in 1981. In fact, Krabbenhoft’s research is so detailed, Baseball Weekly had to correct its own research to match that of Krabbenhoft’s after Baseball Weekly discovered that Krabbenhoft’s research was much more thorough and accurate. Listen to Sports’ Forgotten Heroes to hear just how in-depth Krabbenhoft’s research is, and for a terrific retrospective on the baseball career of President George H.W. Bush.


Baseball Biography of George H.W. Bush

Episode 44: Frederick Arthur Stanley … LORD STANLEY

The name Frederick Arthur Stanley might not mean much to many, but to the world of hockey, it is one of the most important names in the entire sport. In fact, almost every hockey player in the world hopes to one day get their name inscribed on the bands that help to make this trophy one of the most cherished in all of sport – the Stanley Cup. So, who was Frederick Arthur Stanley and why is the Cup named after him? Well, he was appointed Governor General of Canada by Queen Victoria in 1888 when Canada was still under the governance of the U.K. He spent a few years in Canada with his family following through with the Queen’s wishes and performing whatever business the Governor General needed to perform. Stanley was an avid sportsman, but his children participated much more and took a liking to the game of hockey; and it was his children who introduced him to the game. While Stanley who later became known as “Lord Stanley” enjoyed the game, he never became fully enamored with it. However, his daughter, the Lady Isobel Gathorne-Hardy, loved the game and convinced her father to donate a sterling silver cup to the amateur champion of Canada. Known as the Dominion Hockey Challenge Cup, the Cup ultimately found its way into the hands of the National Hockey League and is now known as the Stanley Cup. Kevin Shea, one of hockey’s best-known authors, a man who has written, to date, 17 books on the sport he loves, co-authored the book (with John Jason Wilson), “Lord Stanley, The Man Behind the Cup,” returns to Sports’ Forgotten Heroes for another conversation … this one quite unique in that we talk about a man who had such a profound impact on a game he never played.


Biography of Lord Stanley

Lord Stanley

The Stanley Cup a History

Episode 43: Gus Dorais

The name Gus Dorais is not very familiar to football fans, but it should be. He was one of the game’s greatest innovators and was the first All-American to play at Notre Dame. He was, arguably, the star of the Fighting Irish on a team that also included one of the game’s biggest legends – Knute Rockne. Dorais was the team’s starting quarterback, a stud runner and kicker, and a heckuva safety. He played professionally for the Massillon Tigers of the Ohio League before his career was cut short by another legend – Jim Thorpe. But, the biggest contribution Dorais made to the game was as a coach; and, perhaps, the biggest decision he made was his first decision – whether to stay in South Bend and take a job with Notre Dame, or move on to become the head coach at Dubuque. He chose the latter in an effort to help his best friend – Knute Rockne – who needed a job after his had fallen through. Of course, Rockne went on to help build Notre Dame into one of college football’s greatest teams, while Dorais built smaller programs: Dubuque, Gonzaga and the University of Detroit. After his college coaching days were over, Dorais took on the challenge of coaching the NFL’s Detroit Lions. On this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes author Joe Niese and Gus’s grandson, Bob Dorais, who worked together to write the book, “Gus Dorais, Grid Iron Innovator, All-American and Hall of Fame Coach,” are here to talk about Gus, his friendship with Rockne, and his career on the field and on the sidelines.


For more on Gus Dorais:

Gus Dorais Biography (kickstarter)

Gus Dorais Stats with Detroit Lions

Gus Dorais College Coaching Stats

Gus Dorais Video Coach Detroit Lions

Episode 42: Archie Moore

Archie Moore is the only boxer in history to face Rocky Marciano, Floyd Patterson AND Muhammed Ali. An absolutely terrific boxer, Moore captured the light heavyweight championship by unanimous decision at the age of 36 over Joey Maxim. Moore held the title for 10-years before he was stripped of the belt for failure to fight as a light heavyweight towards the of his 10-year reign because he wanted to win the heavyweight championship. Unfortunately, that dream never became a reality. But, what Moore did over the course of his career is absolutely incredible. His career lasted 28 years! He won 199 times and that included a record 149 knockouts. Later in life, Archie found himself on the big screen as Jim in Huckleberry Finn and the on TV in such iconic shows as Adam-12, Emergency and the Batman TV series. He certainly led a full life, but because he never won the heavyweight belt, his notoriety does not match that of the champions we know best: Joe Louis, Marciano, Patterson, Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield. But his ability in the ring was every bit as good, and the fact that he was a light heavyweight champion for as long as he was should never be overlooked. George Thomas Clark, author of “Death in the Ring” and who previously appeared on SFH (episode 6: Teofilo Stevenson) joins us once again, this time for a look back at the career of the Mongoose; Archie Moore.


Archie Moore Stats

Archie Moore vs. Joey Maxim

Archie Moore vs. Rocky Marciano

Archie Moore Interview

Episode 41: Joe “The Jet” Perry

Joe Perry, nicknamed “The Jet” for his incredible speed was the first man in the history of the NFL to rush for 1,000-yards in back-to-back seasons. He did so for the San Francisco 49’ers in 1953 and 1954. More amazing, Perry became the NFL’s all-time leading rusher, but while he was still playing the great Jim Brown surpassed him and “stole” Perry’s thunder. That alone just might be the reason why so few know much about Perry – especially outside of San Francisco … and that’s a shame, because Perry was something special. In fact, until Frank Gore passed Perry in 2011, he was the Niners all-time leading rusher. For his career, Perry rushed for 9,723 yards over a 16-year career that included a 2-year stint with the Baltimore Colts and two years with the Niners when they were members of the AAFC. Perry scored 71 touchdowns on the ground and 12 through the air. Revered by his teammates and the fans of San Francisco, the Niners actually held a “Joe Perry Day” in 1955 despite the fact that he played through the 1963 season. An all-timer, Perry was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1969. He was also a star in the San Francisco 49’ers famous “Million Dollar Backfield” with Hugh McIlhenny, John Henry Johnson and Y.A. Tittle. Returning to the podcast to talk about “The Jet” is football historian and Lee Elder who is also a longtime member of the Professional Football Researcher’s Association.


Joe Perry Stats

Joe Perry Bio

Joe Perry Highlights

Joe Perry & The Million Dollar Backfield

Episode 40: Joe Kapp

Joe Kapp is known to most fans of the Minnesota Vikings, but outside of Minnesota? Well, he is not a household name; after all, Kapp only played four years in the NFL, three in Minnesota and one with the Boston (now New England) Patriots. Kapps’s road to the NFL was a long one. He starred at Cal-Berkley and won a Rose Bowl as the Bears QB. Drafted by the Washington Redskins, Kapp never reported to the team because the two couldn’t come to terms on a contract. So, Kapp went north and played for the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League and later the British Columbia Lions. In fact, Kapp led the Lions to the Grey Cup championship in 1964. But he wanted to play in the states and after the 1966 season, he got his wish when the rarest of trades was engineered between the Vikings, Stampeders, Lions and the expansion New Orleans Saints. When all was said and done, Kapp wound up at Met Stadium as the QB for the Vikings and in 1969 led Minnesota to its only NFL Championship. They later lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFL-NFL Championship game (now known as the Super Bowl). But another contract squabble cost Kapp and, after just three years in Minnesota, he wound up with the Patriots. Boston was horrible and that spelled the end of Kapp’s career. But while in Minnesota, he certainly made his mark. Edward Gruver who has written several articles for the Professional Football Researcher’s Association, including a terrific piece about Kapp, and who has a new book coming out about the great rivalry between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Oakland Raiders called, “Hell With the Lid Off: Inside the Steelers-Raiders Rivalry That Changed Pro Football,” joins the podcast for a look back at the fabulous career of Joe Kapp.


Joe Kapp Stats

Joe Kapp Bio

Joe Kapp Highlights

Episode 39: Duke Slater

Duke Slater is not a name many football fans are familiar with … but every football fan should know him. Slater was the greatest offensive lineman of his time. In fact, of the 99 games he was eligible to start, he started 96 of them, and it would have been 97 except for the fact that the state of Missouri didn’t allow men of color to play during that period of our country’s history. Slater also played every down – that’s offense, defense and special teams – in 90 games – that’s every second of every game! Simply stated, there was no one better. In fact, the great Red Grange said Slater was the best lineman ever and named him as one of the greatest players to ever suit up in an NFL game. Slater was voted into the inaugural class of the College Football Hall of Fame  … and is a member of the Professional Football Researcher’s Association Hall of Very Good, which has actually been the springboard for several eventual members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. On this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, Neal Rozendaal who authored the book – Duke Slater: Pioneering Black NFL Player and Judge – joins us for a terrific look back at a legendary career that also had a lot of meaning to a lot of people off the grid iron as well.


Duke Slater Bio

Duke Slater Career Stats

Episode 38: Tinker and Evers and Chance

Tinkers to Evers to Chance, one of the most famous double-play combinations in MLB history and, yet, so many don’t really know their story. Some can’t even tell you their first names! But they were good. In fact, they were the key the greatest 5-year and 10-year stretches in baseball history! Yes, Tinker, Evers and Chance were in the center of a run by the Chicago Cubs that once saw them win 102 out of 120 games! Over the 10-year stretch of 1906 thru 1015, the Cubs AVERAGED 99 wins a year! From 1906 thru 1910 they AVERAGED 106 wins a year! The famous trio all wound up in baseball’s Hall of Fame in 1946. But who were they, where did they come from and what made them so special? Heck, what were their first names? On this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, author David Rapp who wrote the book, Tinker to Evers to Chance, and author Dennis Snelling who wrote the book, Johnny Evers, A Baseball Life,” join the podcast for roundtable discussion on the lives and careers of these three middle infielders who were at the heart of the Cubs dynasty, in the middle of one of baseball’s most famous episodes AND you’ll hear a story that I’m sure will shock many when it comes to their relationship on the field.


Joe Tinker Bio

Joe Tinker Career Stats

Johnny Evers Bio

Johnny Evers Career Stats

Frank Chance Bio

Frank Chance Career Stats

Episode 37: Bob Allison

Bob Allison spent four years in the minor leagues before breaking in with the Washington Senators in 1959. When he made it to the Senators (now the Minnesota Twins), very few thought Bob possessed any power, after all, in four minor league seasons he hit just 28 home runs. Well, his rookie year stunned almost everyone! Bob connected for 30 home runs and drove in 85 on his way to a surprising Rookie of the Year award. From there, Bob established himself as one of the games feared sluggers. However, playing in a lineup that also included future Hall of Famer, Harmon Killebrew, one of the greatest to ever play for Minnesota, did not help Bob’s national popularity. But, in Minnesota, Twins’ fans loved him and revered him. Injuries robbed Bob of a long career as he was only healthy to play a full season in nine of his 13 years. But, if you calculate his career stats and break them down to what he would do on average if he played 162 games a year, Bob would have hit 27 home runs a year with 84 RBI a season. Joining the podcast is Gregory H. Wolf, director of the Bioproject for SABR, Greg has written over 150 biographies for SABR and has authored several books including: “A Pennant for the Twin Cities,” and “Winning On The North Side, The 1929 Chicago Cubs.”


Bob Allison’s Catch in the 1965 World Series

Home Run Derby vs. Hank Aaron

Home Run Derby vs. Willie Mays

SABR Bio (by Gregory H. Wolf)

Career Stats

Episode 36: Lefty O’Doul

Lefty O’Doul first tried to make as a pitcher with the New York Yankees and then then Boston Red Sox. But he languished on the bench for both teams and was sent to the minors. But O’Doul could hit and the Salt Lake City Bees convinced O’Doul to give up pitching and concentrate solely on hitting. Wow! If only O’Doul heeded this advice earlier in his career. In his first full season, 1928 with the New York Giants, he hit .319. Traded in 1929 to the Philadelphia Phillies, O’Doul came up one-hit shy of hitting .400 and finished the season with an incredible .398 batting average and the NL Record of most hits in a season with 254. As phenomenal a hitter as he was, because of his persistence to make it as a pitcher, O’Doul just didn’t play long enough to merit serious consideration for enshrinement into the Baseball Hall of Fame despite finishing his career with baseball’s fourth highest batting average of all time – .349. However, he is in Japan’s Baseball Hall of Fame, and for good reason. O’Doul played a pivotal role in helping Japan establish a professional baseball league AND, more importantly, helped ease tensions between the U.S. and Japan after World War II had ended. In fact, General Douglas MacArthur said what O’Doul did was one of the greatest acts of diplomacy in the history of the U.S. Author Dennis Snelling who wrote the book, “Lefty O’Doul: Baseball’s Forgotten Ambassador” joins the podcast for a terrific look back on one of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes.


Career Stats


Lefty O’Doul Discussion 

Episode 35: Sal “The Barber” Maglie

When Sal Maglie finally made his Major League debut at the age of 28, all the years of hard work and persistence had finally paid off. After going 5-4 with a 2.35 ERA, however, Maglie did not make the New York Giants the following season. Deciding to play in the Mexican League proved to be a double-edged sword. Maglie, under the tutelage of Dolf Luque, refined his skills on the mound; but commissioner Happy Chandler suspended all those who left the Majors for Mexico. After other players sued baseball to get back in, Maglie finally got another chance. At the of 33, Maglie put on his Giants uniform once again and this time he stuck. A totally different pitcher, this is when Maglie earned the nickname “The Barber”. He owned the inside part of the plate and was happy to give batters a close shave with his fastball. Maglie went 18-4 in his return season and proceeded to dominate baseball for the next five years – and also pitched in three of the greatest games in baseball history. Peter Gordon, a longtime member of SABR, joins the podcast to talk about the terrific career of Sal “The Barber” Maglie.


Buffalo Sports Hall of Fame

Career Stats


Episode 34: Kiki Cuyler

Hazen Shirley Cuyler is better known by his nickname – Kiki Cuyler – and yet, very few baseball fans can recall this Hall of Famer despite the fact that he played 18 years and finished his career with a batting average of .321. In 1925 he set two records that still stand for the Pittsburgh Pirates, most runs scored in a season with 144, and most total bases in a season with 369. But his time in Pittsburgh was short-lived, and after just four full season with the Pirates he was traded away to the Chicago Cubs amid a few different controversies of which might have cost Pittsburgh the 927 World Series Championship. Cuyler played with some of the game’s most legendary names, and was a very well-known player as well. But for whatever reason, and with such a unique nickname that is actually pronounced “Cuy Cuy” very few fans of the Prates or the Cubs, whom he led to two World Series appearances can recall the man whom drew comparisons to Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Joining the podcast for a look back at the career of Kiki Cuyler is Gregory Wolf, co-director of the biography project for SABR.


1934 All Star Game

Career Stats


Episode 33: Lyman Bostock

Sometimes life isn’t fair. Sometimes you wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time and the consequences can be severe. For Lyman Bostock, a baseball player on the rise, a young superstar, that was the case. During a road trip with the then California Angels to Chicago for a series against the White Sox, Bostock visited his old hometown of Gary, Indiana and in a tragic series of events, was shot dead. Bostock did nothing wrong with exception of going out to dinner with family and friends. An awful, awful end to a man with incredible potential. A guy, who in 3 ½ season with the Angles and Minnesota Twins had hit .311 with an OPS of .791 … a guy whom the Angels had hoped to build a championship team around, a guy who was so much more than just a ballpayer, a guy who gave back to his community in ways few would believe. Author K. Adam Powell who penned the book, “Lyman Bostock, The Inspiring Life and Tragic Death of A Ballplayer,” joins the podcast for a terrific look back at the life and career of Lyman Bostock.


Bostock Life Story Part I

Bostock Life Story Part II

Remembering Lyman Bostock

Career Stats


Episode 32: Ralph Guldahl

Ralph Guldahl joined the PGA TOUR in 1931, walked away from the game in 1934, rejoined the TOUR in 1935, and retired from the game for good in 1940. But in between, he was absolutely phenomenal. During his time on TOUR he won 16 tournaments including three Majors – the 1937 and 1938 U.S. Open and the 1939 Masters. He also won the Western Open in 1936, 1937 and 1938 when the Western was thought of as a Major too. In all, Ralph won 16 times on the TOUR and was named to three Ryder Cup teams. The great Sam Snead once said of Ralph, “If Guldahl gave someone a blood transfusion, the patient would freeze to death,” … that’s how cool and even-keeled Ralph was on the golf course. Tony Parker, golf historian from the World Golf Hall of Fame and Museum joins the podcast to talk about the forgotten career of Ralph Guldahl.


The swing of Ralph Guldahl

Guldahl wins the Miami Biltmore Open

Guldahl wins the 1937 U.S. Open Championship

Biography (Wikipedia)

Episode 31: Giorgio Chinaglia

Before the MLS, before the Premier League, there was the NASL – the North American Soccer League, and while there have been attempts to revive the league, with the MLS now established as America’s highest division of soccer, the fact is, the “old” NASL will never come back and be what it once was. But at its height, the NASL was a league on the world’s stage. Players from around the globe flocked to the U.S. to get in on the action, particularly in New York where the Cosmos ruled. In a town that featured the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers and Knicks, the Cosmos didn’t play second-fiddle to any of them, and leading the way was, perhaps, the most colorful soccer player to ever play in the U.S. – Giorgio Chinaglia. One of the most feared strikers in the game, Chinaglia is the greatest goal-scorer in the history of American soccer. Period. Sure, others might have been or currently are more skilled with the ball, but none of them scored like No. 9. In fact, he once scored seven (7) goals in one game; and netted 18 goals in the 1980 playoffs in just seven (7) games. In 213 games he scored 193 goals. Kartik Krishnaiyer from World Soccer Talk and terrific soccer historian is back on SFH to talk about one of the most flamboyant players to ever step on the pitch – Giorgio Chinaglia.


76 Goals in 1980 Highlights

Interview with Giorgio

Tribute to Giorgio

Biography (Wikipedia)

Episode 30: Dolph Schayes

Dolph Schayes was named one of the NBA’s 50 greatest, yet, so few recall him; and many confuse him for his son Danny (who played 20 years in the NBA). Dolph broke in with the Syracuse Nationals in the 1949-50 season after starring at NYU. The Nationals outbid the New York Knicks for Dolph’s services and reaped the benefits of Schayes’s ability to score and rebound. In fact, the 6-foot-8 center/power forward led Syracuse to the playoffs EVERY year of he played, including the magical season of 1954-55 when the Nationals won the NBA Championship. Despite how good Syracuse was, drawing fans was always a challenge and after the  1962-63 campaign, Syracuse left town, relocated to Philadelphia and changed their name to the 76’ers. During the team’s first year in Philly, Schayes served as its player/coach. He retired as a player to concentrate on coaching and after his third year was let go. But, as a player, he dominated and was actually the league’s all-time leading scorer and rebounder when he retired. Joining SFH to talk about Dolph Schayes is Dolph Grundman, author of the book, “Dolph Schayes and The Rise of Professional Basketball.


Career Stats


Video Highlights

More Dolph Schayes 

Episode 29: Gottfried von Cramm

Gottfried von Cramm was once the No. 1 ranked tennis player in the world. But when he faced Don Budge in the finals of Davis Cup match played at Wimbledon in 1938, he was ranked No. 2. The pressure he was under was unlike any he had ever felt before, and a pressure unlike – possibly – any other athlete has ever felt before or since. You see, von Cramm was a German-Jew, a homosexual and was playing at a time when Adolf Hitler was just coming into power. In fact, the while German’s had an idea of what Hitler was about to do, the rest of the world didn’t … some from Hitler’s gestapo were in attendance that day in 1938, special guests of the King and Queen. The swastika was flying too. But von Cramm knew what was going on, and if he lost that match to Budge, there was no telling what wrath he would face. Author Marshall Jon Fisher recounts the events of that match so well in his book, “A Terrible Splendor,” and is back on SFH as we talk about that match and the career and life of a true hero – Gottfried von Cramm.



Video of Gottfried von Cramm No. 1

Video of Gottfried von Cramm No. 2

Episode 28: Urban Shocker

Urban Shocker was regarded by many as the best pitcher of his time. In fact, Babe Ruth said he was the best pitcher he faced. Other pitchers said that Urban was the best. Writers of the day, such as Damon Runyon, and others called Urban the best too. He started his career with the New York Yankees was traded to the St. Louis Browns and then several years later, the Yankees reacquired him. He was the one player of whom the Yankees said they made a mistake in trading. Over the course of his career he won 187 games. Yet, so few have ever heard of Urban Shocker. He played from 1916 through 1928 – and it was towards the end of the 1928 season in which Shocker succumbed to mitral valve failure, a condition he was able to hide from his teammates and his wife. He struggled with this condition for the last half of his career, and despite it, he was still baffling hitters with a variety of pitches. Steve Steinberg, author of “Urban Shocker, Silent Hero of Baseball’s Golden Age,” joins SFH to talk about Urban, how revolutionary parts of his game were, how dominant he was, and just who was Urban Shocker.



All-Time Stats

Episode 27: Roberto DeVicenzo

April 14, 1968 will go down as one of the most incredible events in the history of the Masters as Roberto DeVicenzo signed an incorrect scorecard and missed an opportunity to wear the Green Jacket. DeVicenzo signed for a score worse than what he actually shot and thus, in doing so, had to accept that score. Had he corrected the error, he would have played Bob Goalby in an 18-hole playoff to decide the champion. Special guest, golf historian and former host of Golf Talk Live, Peter Kessler, joins the podcast as we look back at the incredible events of that day; which ultimately overshadowed a terrific golf career that is rarely spoken about, the career of Roberto DeVicenzo and his 231 worldwide wins.


Swing Clips

1967 British Open

Bio (Wikipedia)

Episode 26: Gene Conley

Gene Conley did something no other athlete before him or who played after him ever accomplished – win a championship in two of the major four sports we follow (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL). Not Deion Sanders, not Bo Jackson, no one. Conley won the World Series with the Milwaukee Braves in 1957 and came off the bench to help the Boston Celtics win NBA championships in 1959, 1960 and 1961. On this edition of the Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, John Husman, team historian of the Toledo Mud Hens (a team that Conley played for prior to being called up to the Braves), a member of SABR and a long-time friend of Conley’s joins the podcast to talk about his old friend and his great career.


Career Stats – Baseball

Career Stats – Basketball


Episode 25: Vic Hadfield

He was the first player in the history of the New York Rangers to score 50 goals in one season. He was originally signed by the Broadway Blues to be an enforce, to add grit to the team. And when he joined teammates Jean Ratelle and Rod Gilbert to form the GAG line (goal a game), the fortunes of the Rangers turned around and they became one of the best team in the NHL reaching the Stanley Cup Finals in 1972 only to lose to the Boston Bruins and Bobby Orr in six games. Despite never winning the Cup, the late 60s and early 70s were glory years for the New York Rangers and Vic Hadfield just might have been the heart of the team. George Grimm recently released a book, “We Did Everything But Win”, a terrific look back at the Rangers’ teams of that era, and he joins the podcast to talk about those Rangers and Vic Hadfield.


Career Stats


Jersey Retirement Announcement

Episode 24: Dave DeBusschere

Dave DeBusschere was, simply stated, remarkable. A world class two-sport star who was raised just outside of Detroit, DeBusschere was a stud pitcher and an even better basketball player. Taken by the Detroit Pistons in the NBA’s territorial draft, he was also selected by the Chicago White Sox … and he played professionally for both teams. On the hardwood, DeBusschere quickly established himself as one of the NBA’s premier forwards. For the White Sox, however, he bounced back-and-forth between the minors and the majors. The Pistons, however, knew he was something special and to convince him to forego his career as a Major League pitcher, Detroit named DeBusschere player/coach when he was just 24-years old. Bill Pruden, who has written several biographies for SABR (Society for American Baseball Research) including a bio on DeBusschere is this week’s guest as we look back on a simply remarkable career.


Career Stats

Career Coaching Stats

NBA’s 50 Greatest Players

As Player Coach


Episode 23: Johnny “Blood” McNally

Johnny Blood is a member of the inaugural class of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Inducted in 1963 in a class that included Sammy Baugh, Red Grange, Curly Lambeau, Tim Mara, George Halas, Bronko Nagurski and others, “Blood” might be the least known of all of them. Johnny’s given name is “McNally”, but gave himself the name “Blood” because, well, he just liked it (after he saw it on a marquee). Blood was big, and most coaches wanted him to play defense. But he would have none of it, and wanted to play offense, or else he wasn’t going to play. An all-around great athlete, and still the NFL record holder of catching the most TD passes in a season as a halfback, Johnny is one of four former Green Bay Packers with a statue erected in his honor. Ralph Hickok, author of “Vagabond Halfback, The Saga of Johnny Blood McNally,” enlightens us with some great stories and a look back on the career of this football great.


Don Hutson discusses Johnny Blood:

Bio (wiki):

Packers Bio:

Pro Football Hall of Fame Bio:

Career Stats:

Episode 22: Don Budge

Don Budge was the first player in the history of tennis to win the Grand Slam. In 1938, he won the Australian Championships, French Championships, Wimbledon and U.S. Championships. In fact, after having won Wimbledon and the U.S. Championships to close out 1937, he actually won six straight Grand Slam titles. Rod Laver, who won the Grand Slam in 1962 and again in 1969, is the only other male tennis player to win the Grand Slam. Budge played at a time when tennis was king of the hill. It was, perhaps, the most popular sport back in the 30s and 40s when Budge was at his best. Marshall Jon Fisher, author of “A Terrible Splendor” a terrific book about one of the greatest tennis matches ever played, is the guest on this edition of SFH to talk about the great career of this forgotten hero.


World Tennis Hall of Fame Bio:


Don Budge vs. Bobby Riggs:

Don Budge vs. Frank Kovac:

1937 Wimbledon Finals Don Budge vs. Gottfried von Cramm:

Episode 21: Frank Ryan

Frank Ryan is the last quarterback to lead the Cleveland Browns to an NFL Championship and he joins the podcast to talk about his career and the Browns team of 1964 – the last year Cleveland won the NFL title. Lightly regarded when he came out of Rice in 1958, the Los Angeles Rams selected him in the 5th round of the draft because they were impressed with his arm strength. But, for most of his four seasons with the Rams, Ryan rode the bench … and when he did get a chance to play, coach Bob Waterfield had a quick hook when Ryan made a mistake. Frustrated with his playing time, Ryan requested a trade and prior to the 1962 season, the Rams met Ryan’s request and shipped him to Cleveland. The Browns QB at the time was Jim Ninowski and midway through 1962 he suffered an injury opening the door for Ryan to become the team’s starter. He didn’t relinquish that job until 1968. In between, Ryan led the Browns into two NFL Championship games including a 27-0 win over Baltimore in 1964. Author Roger Gordon who has written several books on the Browns also joins the podcast.


Career Stats:

Sports Illustrated Article:


Episode 20: John W. Heisman

Who was John W. Heisman and why was the trophy to honor the college football player of the year named after him? Well, when you take a look back at Heisman’s legendary coaching career, the contributions he made to the game are many and most of them are still evident in the game we watch today. But, that’s only part of the story. Amazingly, Heisman didn’t want a trophy awarded – period! So, for someone who didn’t want a trophy awarded to begin with, the fact that it is named after him – The Heisman Trophy – makes this story even more incredible; and joining me on the podcast is the man charged with keeping and preserving the legacy of John W. Heisman – his great-nephew and co-author of the book, Heisman, The Man Behind The Trophy,” John M. Heisman.




Episode 19: Ernie DiGregorio

Ernie DiGregorio was the NBA Rookie of the Year for the 1973-74 season. The No. 3 pick out of Providence after leading the Friars to 27-4 mark during his All-America senior season, Ernie was as exciting as they come. Standing just 6-feet tall and weighing all of 180-pounds, he was a magician on the court. If you were open, Ernie would find a way to get the ball to you. In fact, he set the rookie record for most assists in a game (25) and led the NBA during his rookie campaign in assists with an average of 8.2 per game to go along with 15.2 points-per-game. And, in his rookie year he led the Buffalo Braves to their first-ever playoff appearance. But, a knee injury cut Ernie’s career short. Tim Wendel, author of “Buffalo, Home of The Braves”, makes his second visit to the podcast as we take a look back at the career of Ernie DiGregorio.


Career Stats


Highlight Reel No. 1

Behind the Back Pass

vs. USSR

Scores 16 Straight For the Celtics

Episode 18: Dennis Maruk

Dennis Maruk was one of the first hockey players to score 60 goals in a season and he joins Sports’ Forgotten Heroes to talk about his magical year, career and more. There was a time when scoring 60 goals in a season in the NHL was a very rare accomplishment. Phil Esposito was the first to break the barrier when he scored 76 in 1970-71. Guy Lafleur reached the 60-goal mark, so did Steve Shutt and Mike Bossy. Those guys were the NHL’s big guns. Few, though, had ever heard of Dennis Maruk … and even today very few recall Maruk. But he was one of the first to do it when he lit the lamp 60 times in 1981-82 for the Washington Capitals. Since then, the magical number 60 has been broken many times. But when Dennis did it, it was a huge accomplishment and hardly anyone noticed! Dennis just released a book, “Dennis Maruk, The Unforgettable Story of Hockey’s Forgotten 60-Goal Man,” where he talks about his career, playing in the shadows of some of the game’s greatest players ever, and his life afterwards.


Career Stats




Episode 17: Bob Waterfield

Bob Waterfield led the Cleveland Rams to an NFL Championship in 1945, and followed that by leading the Los Angeles Rams to an NFL Championship in 1951. In fact, Waterfield is the only quarterback to lead the Rams franchise to two NFL Championships. He is also the only rookie quarterback to ever win an NFL Championship. Waterfield played for the Rams from 1945 through 1952 and was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1965. He might also be remembered for his poster pinup wife, and high school sweetheart – Jane Russell. Jim Sulecki, author of, The Cleveland Rams, The NFL Champs Who Left Too Soon, joins the podcast to talk about this forgotten hero of the NFL: Bob Waterfield.


Great Rookie Season

A Rams Legend 

1945 Championship Game

Career Stats


Hall of Fame 

Bob Waterfield

Episode 16: The Buffalo Braves

The 2017-2018 season is the 40th anniversary season of the Los Angeles Clippers, a team that, in recent years, has played with high expectations. However, Los Angeles is not where the Clippers got their start. In fact, prior to moving to home, the Clippers called San Diego home for six years. But that’s not where they got their start. In fact, the Clippers were born as the Buffalo Braves for the 1970-71 season and called Buffalo home for eight years. On this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, Tim Wendel, author of “Buffalo, Home of The Braves” joins the podcast for a wonderful conversation about a team whose legacy grows by the day.


Franchise History

The Buffalo Braves


Bob McAdoo

Book: Buffalo, Home of the Braves

Episode 15: Justin Fashanu

In 1980, Justin Fashanu catapulted his young career on the pitch into another stratosphere with a most incredible goal against powerhouse Liverpool. In fact, won the prestigious “Goal of the Year” Award, and earned Fashanu a $1,000,000-pound transfer fee from Norwich City to Nottingham Forest. It was the largest transfer fee, at that time, ever for a black footballer. But was it too much too son? Was Justin too young to handle this new fame and fortune? Was he emotionally not mature enough to cope with his new surroundings? Kartik Krishnaiyer from World Soccer Talk joins Sports’ Forgotten Heroes to talk about a most fascinating talent whose career had so much potential and ended in tragedy.


Goal vs. Liverpool


The Life and Death of Justin Fashanu

John – He was my hero

Episode 14: Cleveland Rams

In 1937, 80 years ago, the Rams made their NFL debut. Only, it wasn’t in Los Angeles and it wasn’t in St. Louis. The Rams were originally the Cleveland Rams, and after a tumultuous existence in Cleveland, the Rams packed up and departed for Los Angeles 27 days after winning the team’s first NFL Championship. The Rams continually struggled to attract fans, only twice reached .500, including their 9-1 season of 1945, and had to deal with a variety of issues that doomed their Cleveland existence from day one. Jim Sulecki, whose father was in the stands for the 1945 title game against the Washington Redskins, and who recently published a book, The Cleveland Rams, The NFL Champs Who Left Too Soon, joins the podcast for a fascinating look back at one of the NFL’s forgotten teams.

Episode 13: Amos Otis, OF – Kansas City Royals

Amos Otis was, arguably, the first real superstar in the history of the Kansas City Royals. Acquired from the New York Mets on December 3, 1969 (along with pitcher Bob Johnson) for third baseman Joe Foy, Otis enjoyed a terrific, if not, great career with the Royals. 1970 was his first full season in the majors and with Kansas City (the Royals second year of existence) he hit .284, stole 33 bases, led the American League in doubles with 36 and appeared in the All Star Game. For his career, he won three gold gloves while playing centerfield for Kansas City and appeared in five all-star games. A career .277 hitter, Amos Otis was inducted into the Royals Hall of Fame in its inaugural class of 1986 along with pitcher Steve Busby. Bill Lamberty, a long time member of the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR), and author of several articles for the SABR’s biography project, joins the podcast for more on Amos Otis.

Episode 12: Benny Friedman, QB – New York Giants

In 2005, QB Benny Friedman was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It was an honor long overdue. Friedman is considered by many to be the QB to have turned the game of football from a running game to a passing game. In 1929, with the New York Giants, Friedman threw 20 touchdown passes. That number would not be equaled by anyone until 1977. In fact, no other team passed for 20 touchdowns until 1942! As SFH guest Lee Elder notes, there might not be a New York Giants or an NFL had it not been for Friedman. Friedman also served as a coach, and an athletic director after his playing days were over. But it was his mission to have pre-1958 NFL players included in the league’s pension program that might have delayed Friedman’s entrée into the Hall of Fame. Lee Elder from the Professional Football Researcher’s Association joins the podcast to talk more about Benny Friedman.

Episode 11: Hal Newhouser

Over the course of his 17-year career (15 with the Detroit Tigers and two with the Cleveland Indians), Hal Newhouser went 207-150. While not overly incredible numbers, it’s what he did from 1944 through 1949 that shows how dominant a pitcher he was. During that 6-year stretch, Newhouser went 136-67. In 1944 he was 29-9 and followed that by going 25-9 in 1945 and 26-9 in 1946. He is the last American League pitcher to win at least 25 games three years in a row. In 1944 and 1945 he won the MVP Award – the only pitcher to ever win the award in back-to-back years, and in 1946 he finished second. Yet, when it came to the Hall of Fame, Newhouser couldn’t garner the votes needed for induction, that is until author David M. Jordan launched a campaign to get “Prince” Hal Newhouser inducted. On this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, Jordan joins the podcast to talk about Hal Newhouser and his remarkable career.

Episode 10: Nate Colbert

On August 1, 1972 Nate Colbert led his San Diego Padres into Atlanta for a doubleheader against the Braves. Neither team was a contender. The Braves finished the year with a record of 70-84, and the Padres wound up 58-95. But on this particular day, what happened in Atlanta was the talk of baseball. Colbert put together one of the greatest performances in the history of the game. He went 7-for-10 with five home runs, 13 RBI and a record 22 total bases. It was the kind of performance one can only dream about … and Colbert did! In 1952, Stan Musial hit five home runs in a doubleheader for the Cardinals against the Giants and Colbert was in the stands to see all of them as an 8-year-old boy! Bill Swank, regarded as San Diego’s preeminent baseball historian joins Sports’ Forgotten Heroes for a look back at that incredible day and to recall the career of San Diego’s all-time leader in home runs.

Episode 09: Willie Anderson

Willie Anderson was one of the top golfers in the world during the early 1900s. Of course, this was at a time when professional golf tournaments were few and far between and amateur golfers were held in higher regard. Nonetheless, Anderson was as good as anyone. In fact, he was dominant and became the first golfer to hold two Major U.S. titles at one time, the U.S. Open and the Western Open (the Western Open was considered a Major back in the early 1900s). More impressively, though, Anderson won the U.S. Open in 1901, 1903, 1904, and 1905. He is still the only golfer to ever win three straight U.S. Open Championships and he won four overall. And, if not for a fourth place finish in 1902, he would have won five straight. Tony Parker, historian and researcher at the World Golf Hall of Fame and Museum joins us to take a look back at one of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes.

Episode 08: Dean Chance

Playing for the then Los Angeles Angels in 1964, there was no reason for anyone t o think Dean Chance was going to have a breakout season. After all, he went 14-10 in 1962 and followed that with a 13-18 campaign for the Angels in 1963 … and the Angels just weren’t a good team. In fact, Los Angeles finished 1964 with a record of 82-80. Los Angeles’s other team, the Dodgers, were led by Sandy Koufax who had won the Cy Young Award in 1963 and would go on to win it again in 1965 and 1966 (and with a 19-5 mark in ’64 to go along with a 1.74 ERA, Koufax could have won again in ’64). But 1964 was the year of Dean Chance. Flat out, he dominated the game in a way few have ever done. We’ll take a look back at Dean’s 1964 season and his career with 2-time Cy Young Award winner Denny McLain … and we’ll also explore Dean’s fascination with boxing and the IBA with boxing Hall of Fame members Bill Caplan and Don Chargin.

Episode 07: Tony Lema

Tony Lema had it going, he was on top of his game and was one of the stars of the PGA TOUR. He had won 22 tournaments around the world, 12 on the TOUR, and the 1964 British Open. He had such confidence in his game, that he thought the Big 3 of Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus and Gary Player should have been renamed the Big 4. Lema was a fun-loving guy and golf galleries loved to watch him play. He was flamboyant, dressed to the nines, used gold-colored tees, and after every win he treated the press to champagne. To say he was loved by all would be an understatement. But it all came to a tragic end in 1966. After the final round of the 1966 PGA Championship at Firestone in Akron, Ohio, Lema boarded a chartered flight to a small town just outside of Chicago and the plane encountered problems and crashed on the 7th hole of the Lansing Sportsmen’s Club killing aboard. Family friend Bill Roland authored a terrific biography on Lema, Champagne Tony Lema; Triumph to Tragedy and joins me on the podcast as we look back on the career of Champagne Tony Lema.

Episode 06: Teofilo Stevenson

Cuba’s greatest athlete ever? Perhaps. Cuba’s greatest boxer? No doubt. Teofilo Stevenson is the only man to win three straight Olympic Boxing Gold Medals in the heavyweight division. Stevenson won in 1972 (Munich), 1976 (Montreal) and 1980 (Moscow); and there are many who think he would have won a fourth straight Gold had Cuba not boycotted the 1984 games in Los Angeles. When the Olympics rolled around, Stevenson was a household name even here in the U.S. He possessed one of the most devastating right hands of all time, and at 6-foot-5 he was as intimidating as they came. But Stevenson never fought as a professional and reportedly turned down millions to turn pro and fight for the World Championship against the likes of Muhammed Ali, Joe Frazier and George Foreman. Author, writer, researcher George Thomas Clark (Tom Clark) joins me on this episode of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes for a look back on the remarkable career of Teofilo Stevenson and what might/could have been.

Episode 05: Ed Delahanty

In the early 1900s, Ed Delahanty was the biggest star in baseball. Regarded, by some, as baseball’s first 5-tool player, he hit over .400 three times, and was the game’s most powerful hitter. But he was struggling financially and, essentially, had to pay his team to continue playing. Big Ed was caught up in a battle between the well-established National League and the upstart American League. He was so distraught over his situation that he left his team in the middle of a road trip and was never to be seen again. John Saccoman, a member of the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) joins me on Sports’ Forgotten Heroes for a conversation about Ed Delahanty – his hall of fame career, and the tragedy that followed.

Episode 04: Bill Barilko Part II

In 1951, playing in their fourth Stanley Cup Finals in five years, the Toronto Maple Leafs squared off against their arch-nemesis the Montreal Canadiens. As hockey historian and author Kevin Shea noted, this one was going to be for the ages. And while only five games were needed in the best-of-seven series, the Finals couldn’t have been any closer. Every game went into overtime. In the fifth, and final game, Bill Barilko beat Montreal goaltender Gerry McNeil with a backhander to give the Leafs the Cup, their fourth in five years, and establish Toronto as a dynasty. However, it was to be Toronto’s last Cup until 1962 … and sadly, it was also to be the last goal Bill Barilko would ever score. In this, Part II of the Bill Barilko story on Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, Shea joins me for a conversation on game five, and the incredible tragedy that followed.

Episode 03: Bill Barilko Part I

Bill Barilko was a terrific, young defenseman for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He was called up to the team during the 1946-47 season and helped lead the Leafs to the Stanley Cup Championship. The following season, Barilko established himself as a rock along the blue line and again helped lead the Leafs to a Stanley Cup Championship. In 1948-49, Barilko and his Toronto teammates became the first team in NHL history to win three straight Stanley Cup Championships; and they made it four in five years in the 1950-51 season. In fact, the ’50-’51 Finals was historic. Toronto vs. Montreal. Heated rivals. Every game of that series went into overtime. The Leafs won it five games, and in that fifth game Barilko scored the overtime goal to clinch the Cup. But it’s what happened during the summer following that championship that makes the Bill Barilko story incredible. Kevin Shea, hockey historian and author of the terrific biography on Bill Barilko, aptly named “Barilko” joins me on this podcast as we look back on the career of Bill Barilko.

Episode 02: Billy Cannon Part II

After winning the Heisman Trophy in 1959 at LSU, Billy Cannon signed a contract with Pete Rozelle and to play for the Los Angeles Rams of the NFL. But Bud Adams of the upstart AFL’s Houston Oilers also had his eyes set on the star halfback and made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. On this podcast of Sports’ Forgotten Heroes, we take a look back at the controversy surrounding Billy Cannon and entre into professional football, his life after his playing days were over, his fall from grace, and his remarkable rise afterwards. Joining me again are Charles de Gravelles, author of “Bill Cannon A Long, Long Run” and Jim Weathersby from They take a look back at Billy’s career with the Oilers and Oakland Raiders, and how he transformed the tight end position into a scoring threat as well.

Episode 01: Billy Cannon Part I

Billy Cannon won the Heisman Trophy while at in 1959. A year earlier, he helped lead LSU to its first National Championship. After his college days were over, Cannon embarked on a fabulous pro career. But it’s what happened after his playing days were over that makes the story of Billy Cannon even more intriguing. My guests for this podcast are Charles de Gravelles, who wrote the book, “Billy Cannon A Long, Long Run”, and Jim Weathersby from Part I covers Billy’s days in high school through his playing days at LSU. It also explores Billy’s life off the field.

Episode 00: About Sports’ Forgotten Heroes

This podcast details what you can expect every OTHER Tuesday on Sports’ Forgotten Heroes. The fact that it’s about greats of the game not named Babe Ruth, Jim Brown or Michael Jordan. It’s about Billy Cannon, Dean Chance, Tony Lema, and other great, great stars of the past time has forgotten. Authors, writers, athletes, historians, and sometimes the star themselves will appear on Sports’ Forgotten Heroes.